Why whould the "Electronic Intifada" want to make "the Jews"
appear to be the victims when it is the Palestinians who
are being slaughtered? A "bad translation" is the source
of this story posted by Ali Abunimah.
"In its report on Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal’s speech in
Gaza on Saturday, The Observer, the Sunday sister paper of
The Guardian, quoted Meshaal saying the following words:
'We don’t kill Jews because they are Jews. We kill the
Zionists because they are conquerors and we will continue
to kill anyone who takes our land and our holy places
… We will free Jerusalem inch by inch, stone by stone.'
This however is a blatant mistranslation. What Meshaal
actually said is:"
'We do not fight the Jews because they are Jews. We fight the
Zionist occupiers and aggressors. And we will fight anyone who
tries to occupy our lands or attacks us. We fight those who
fight us, who attack us, who besiege us, who attack our holy
places and our land.'
So it is the Jews
who are in trouble. It is the Jews you have to worry about.
Whatever happened to the Palestinians? "The Jews" are always
the victims. After all "one Jewish fingernail is worth
a million Arabs" isn't it?
Permalink Submitted by Ernest (not verified) on Mon, 12/10/2012 - 18:24
What happened to the deal with Sharon? Or
was Steinberg misinformed?
"In the 1970s, Hamas was built up by Israeli occupying
forces as a "countergang" to the PLO of Yasser Arafat.
Hamas leaders were granted licenses by Israeli authorities
to set up food kitchens, clinics, schools and daycare
centers, to create a governing structure alternative
to Arafat's Fatah...
...Sharon would move to "transfer" large portions of
the Arab population of Israel—along with a majority
of West Bank and Gaza Palestinians—to the east bank
of the Jordan River, under a Sharon-sponsored Hamas
I suspected that this was the case, misinformation
Permalink Submitted by Yehuda (not verified) on Tue, 12/11/2012 - 09:04
The guardian relies on Israeli sources to cover Gaza, therefore the translation was probably provided by someone who has an agenda to show Khaled Maashal as a rabid anti-jewish "dog" thus provide vindication and justification for Israel's utter refusal to talk to the Hamas.
The people of Israel (I am one of them) were also treated to an abbreviated version of Maashal speech which contained only the words Kill, Destroy,Eliminate, Never recognize and so forth.
This version was provided by the Israeli's so caleld "Arab experts", who know everything but understand nothing.
The Palestinians have no real representation
Permalink Submitted by Ernest (not verified) on Tue, 12/11/2012 - 15:31
Israel created Hamas because it did not want to talk to the PLO supposedly because it was a "terrorist" organization.
Now it talks to Abbas who was PLO but supposedly not to Hamas which according to Steinberg made a deal with Israel that if it would help Israel ethnically cleanse Palestine of its Population of Arabs it would overthrow King Hussein and install Hamas as the government of Jordan.
A faction in the PLO did try to overthrow King Hussein before with disastrous consequences for the Palestinians.
The ethnic cleansing policy was explained by Moshe Dayan who said that the Israelis would always provoke the Arabs to get a response so they would have an excuse to smash them.
Hamas has provided that excuse again and again and again with its makeshift rockets which do nothing but provide the Israeli government with an excuse to kill more Palestinians and grab more Palestinian land.
Lets face it. The Palestinians have no representation and can have none until the UN makes it an independent state by force if necessary.
Fat chance since the UN was created by Zionist Jews for the purpose of creating Israel to be the capital of a one world government run by Jews.
Permalink Submitted by Ali Abunimah on Tue, 12/11/2012 - 16:08
An enduring myth is that “Israel created Hamas.” It is without basis. The most that can be said is that in Hamas’ early days, and before it engaged in armed activities, Israel tolerated as part of a divide and rule strategy with the PLO. But Israel did not “create” Hamas.
You can tell what an organization thinks about
free speech and truth by how it handings links to other
sites. The "Electronic Intifada" does not allow such
"Excuse me but I remember when Hamas was created. I remember
watching a report on American TV about how Israel was funding
a religious alternative to the PLO.
I thought how nice because the PLO had gained the reputation
of being a terrorist organization due to the activities of an
Israeli mole by the name of Abu Nidal who blew up numerous
airliners and murdered 600 Palestinians in the name of
"Abu Nidal was undoubtedly a Mossad agent. Practically every
job he did benefited Israel."
Typical Ron Paul half truths but he makes my point. Hamas
was an Israeli creation. And things are shaping up according
to my points based on Steinberg's article not Paul's.
The Egyptian government has declared the Gazans to be
Egyptian citizens. When Jordan does the same for the
Arabs in the West Bank expect the ethnic cleansing
to come to its fruition. A war between Israel and the masonic
King of Jordan and a war between Israel and Egypt's masonic
"Muslim Brotherhood" (which created Hamas according to the
Zionist propagandists) will be required.
While the pretended anti-Zionists of the world
sing sweetly to Palestinians "Come On-A My Hamas!
"In Christian Peacemaker Teams, we often speak of the importance of
loving the enemy. It happens here every day. My government issued
the Balfour Declaration and even now they will not support Palestine
without making ridiculous preconditions. Yet Palestinians, knowing I
am British, still offer me exceptional hospitality and welcome.
Yesterday a Hebron shopkeeper offered me a fresh piece of shortbread
to celebrate the first step towards Palestinian statehood."
Ernest M. Trionfo
December 12th, 2012 at 22:48:58 ·
Why not make the West Bank and Gaza UN protectorates?
Jerusalem could be made an international city. This should be acceptable as all three Abrahamic faiths believe that Jerusalem will be the capital of the world when the Messiah (the Christ)returns.
Gazans already have a seat in the General Assembly as the Egyptian government has made them Egyptian citizens.
As things are going Israel will complete its ethnic cleansing state or no state and the Palestinians do not have the power to resist it.
As Egyptian citizens the Gazans can petition the Egyptian government to make this proposal to the UN.
They said that Lee Harvey Oswald was a "loner" too. That was part of
the frame up. He was on drugs for "mental problems."
Not long ago, while I was using the computer in my local library,
I remember a kid was sitting next to me playing a virtual reality
video game where he became the shooter in a restaurant shooting down
people. Rather graphic and realistic.
Presumably, the more people he shot the higher his score. I thought to
my self this kid must be like 8 years old and the libary is providing
him with this kind of stuff to play with?
Who has the mental problems here? The kid or the adults who run our
corrupt government and criminal media?
Gun Control for Christmas?
There is more than mood altering drugs involved in these
shootings. If the kid is guilty he was probably manipulated
psychologically, not only by violent videogames, but also by some
outside sinister force which has a political agenda.
"Most admit the origin of these psychotic cocktails had been in a
Mossad controlled labatory in the 1950's. Experiments were conducted
where the subjects were subjected to months of psychiatric subliminal
suggestions and then fed a mix of different drugs.
Chemists found the certain mixtures of Methamphetamine/benzodiazepines
or methylphenidate, m-cholorophenyl piperazine, ketamine, and
Tetrahydrocannabinol could be explosive. Prisoners from the Beer
Sheeba prison were often used as guinea pigs. After rumors of a
teenager, who machine gunned a room of prisoners got out, the
Israelis said the program had been abandoned."
I wonder if Alvin and the Chipmunks will be asking for a GI Jerk video game
this year. First, take away the drones, the nukes, the stealth
bombers, the Bradley fighting vehicles, and all the other
toys that bully boy Obama likes to play with, disarm
and denuke Israel, then come back and lets talk about
who controls the guns.
The most violent video game that I ever saw was the
CNN coverage of the Gulf War.
At any rate, according to the way that "Homeland Security" and the Israeli goverment
handle this kind of thing we should bring in the tanks and the apache helicopters to
lay waste the state of Connecticut for letting this kind of thing happen.
The word "alleged" should be inserted due to the import of this
"The father of Newtown C onnecticut school
shooter Adam Lanza is Peter Lanza who is a VP and
Tax Director at GE Financial. The father of Aurora
Colorado movie theater shooter James Holmes
is Robert Holmes, the lead scientist for the credit
score company FICO. Both men were to testify
before the US Sentate in the ongoing LIBOR scandal.
The London Interbank Offered Rate, known as Libor, is the average
interest rate at which banks can borrow from each other...
16 international banks have been implicated in this ongoing
scandal, accused of rigging contracts worth trillions of
"At 8 p.m. on 28 April 1996, less than seven hours after the mass murder at
Port Arthur, Martin Bryant's mother Carleen was suddenly taken to
Tasmanian Police Headquarters in Hobart.
Unknown to Carleen, in another
part of headquarters at exactly the same time, police negotiators were
allegedly engaged in a long conversation with a man at Seascape they later
claimed was her son...
Hard evidence suggests that a senior police
officer ruthlessly ordered Carleen Bryant's forced visit to headquarters that
evening, in order to later "authenticate" the impossible premature police
identification of her only son, Martin Bryant."
"As reported in Rolling Stone, these three employees of General
Electric subsidiary GE Capital were recently found guilty of
conspiring with major Wall Street banks from around 1999 to
2006 of fixing public auctions of municipal bonds."
It appears that Racketeering, bribery, and obstruction of
justice are a bit of a problem in Newtown.
"Wise Laws has Newtown defense attorneys on staff possessing a
superior understanding of the complicated laws and issues applying
to Newtown Racketeer Influenced and Newtown Corrupt Organizations
Act (RICO) litigation. We defend persons facing Newtown racketeering
charges in Newtown.
Several of our Newtown attorneys have worked previously as
Newtown prosecutors in various cities across Newtown CT and
have strategic insights of RICO trials, including the process
of investigations, and how to defend those charged
Our background includes knowledge of and experience with:
Newtown Connecticut Racketeering
Newtown Bribery and bribery-related cases
Acts or threats involving Newtown Murder, murder for hire or Kidnapping
Newtown Gambling and transmission of gambling information
Newtown Trafficking of Drugs or other controlled substances
Counterfeiting and money laundering in Newtown
Newtown Wire Fraud
Mail Fraud and financial institution fraud
Unlawful reproduction of papers or procurement of citizenship or naturalization
False statements relating to the application, use, misuse or forgery
of a passport, visas, permits or other documents
"The defendants in the case Dominick Carollo, Steven Goldberg and Peter Grimm
worked for GE Capital, the finance arm of General Electric.
Along with virtually every major bank and finance company on Wall
Street not just GE...
these three Wall Street wiseguys spent the past decade taking part in a
breathtakingly broad scheme to skim billions of dollars from the coffers
of cities and small towns across America.
The banks achieved this gigantic
rip-off by secretly colluding to rig the public bids on municipal bonds, a
business worth $3.7 trillion.
By conspiring to lower the interest rates that
towns earn on these investments, the banks systematically stole from schools,
hospitals, libraries and nursing homes from "virtually every state, district
and territory in the United States," according to one settlement.
And they did it so
cleverly that the victims never even knew they were being cheated. No thumbs were
broken, and nobody ended up in a landfill in New Jersey, but money disappeared,
lots and lots of it, and its manner of disappearance had a familiar name:
"The Libor scandal is a series of fraudulent actions connected to the Libor
(London Interbank Offered Rate) and the resulting investigation and reaction.
The Libor is an average interest rate calculated through submissions of interest
rates by major banks in London. The scandal arose when it was discovered that
banks were falsely inflating or deflating their rates so as to profit from trades, or
to give the impression that they were more creditworthy than they were."
A politician who tells the truth? No wonder they are calling him a
"fascist!" By the time we figure out who really did it we will
"move on" to the next massacre, and the next, and the next ... until we are
moved into the the Gulags.
The real shooters in the Port Authur massacre achieved a
kill to injure ratio of 1.66 to 1. or about 2 killed for
every 1 injured. According to Joe Vialls that is a professional
He compared it to Kip Kinkel's Amateurish kill ratio of 1 to 10.
There is no way Lanza could have achieved an incredible
kill ratio of 14 to 1. This was a professional job by top
marksmen trained in killing.
"Martin Bryant, an intellectually impaired registered invalid
with no training in the use of high powered assault weapons,
could not under any circumstances have achieved or maintained
the incredibly high and consistent killed-to-injured ratio and
kill-rate which were bench marks of the port Arthur massacre.
Whoever was on the trigger that fateful day demonstrated professional
skills equal to some of the best special forces shooters in the world,
His critical error lay in killing too many people too quickly while
injuring far too few, thereby exposing himself for what he was: a
highly trained combat shooter probably ranked among the top twenty
such specialists in the western world.
The killed-to-injured ratio is used to calculate
reliably how many injured survivors should be expected for
every person killed for a given number of rounds fired. Even
assault rounds as powerful as those fired by the Colt AR15
can only ensure a one-shot kill if the target is hit in the
head, a six by six inch target: or in the heart, a ten by ten
inch target. Together these areas form between one fifth and
one seventh of the over-all body target areas, so for every
person killed there will be between five and seven injured,
expressed as "1 to 5" and "1 to 7".
The records show that a total of 32 people were shot in the
Broad Arrow Cafe, so at best we would expect 4 dead and 28
injured, or at worst 6 dead and 26 injured. These are very
reliable military figures based on hard science, but the actual
figures in the Broad Arrow Cafe were 20 dead and 12 injured - an
incredible inverted ratio of 1.66 to 1, or nearly two dead for
every one injured.:
Kip Kinkel provided the perfect "live" cafe simulation needed
to prove Martin Bryant's innocence at Port Arthur.
Despite firing fifty one rounds, nearly twice as many as those
fired in the Broad Arrow Cafe, Kinkel killed only two and wounded
another twenty one. Of the two dead, only one was hit in the head.
Killer Kinkel had
done his murderous best, but it was a best that fell far
short of the very professional massacre in the Broad Arrow
cafe two years before. In the Broad Arrow Cafe twenty were killed
and twelve wounded, while in the Thurston School Cafe two were
killed and twenty-one: wounded. So in the Broad Arrow Cafe the
shooter scored an incredible inverted killed-to-injured ratio
(KTIR) of 1.66 to 1, on a par with the best special forces
counter-terrorist marksmen in the world. "
Most kids can run pretty damn fast and psychotics are out of touch with
reality. To achieve the impossibly high kill ratio of 14 to 1 you have
to aim for the head or the heart, be in complete control of your senses
and be a trained marksman like the Israeli "counter terrorism"
Mistaravim who have free reign to run around the USA to kill people
in the guise of "fighting terrorism."
No doubt about it, this was a Christmas present from the same Christian
hating Jews who did 9/11
PressTV refused to post 2 of my comments.
The first was my post describing how the Newtown
massacre could not have been the act of a "lone nut"
gunman but was likely a false flag by an Israeli death
squad - as described above.
The last one
had to do with an insulting anti-American propaganda piece by Finnian Cunningham
Killing children is the all-American way
blaiming Americans for
what the neocons and the Israeli goverment
who have taken over the US
government and media have done.
In explaining that Bin Laden is Jewish
Rose Cohen put Rabbi Joseph Crool's intepretation
of Genesis of Abraham dividing the sacrificial animals
of as a prophecy that Jews will get the
getting gentiles to kill each other off
in these words.
"BIN LADEN IS JEWISH, full stop...
The strategy is simple: attempt to make our enemies suspect
each other and then
fight it out. It saves us the work. Keep in mind that our enemies
are ANYONE WHO IS NOT JEWISH."
You lost me when you started talking about capitalism and "profit making".
People who talk like that murdered 37.6 million orthodox Christians in the
It has nothing to do with Americans or "the American Way."
Madeleine Albright is a Jew. Jews ran the Clinton adminstration,
the Bush administration, and now run the Obama Adminstration.
"We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."...Ariel Sharon.
"America is very easy to manipulate"...Benjamin Netanyahu
"And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? ...
Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every
woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children,
that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves."
So why is Amadinajad flashing the hand signal of the "Great Satan?" And why
is he trying to jump start a new cold war with Russians? Neither of these men
believe in God or Satan. This a sign that they have given themselves over to
Like Germany before world War II and the US, Iran has a sizable
Jewish population so there are undoubtedly plenty of Sayanim
and cypto Jews in Iran. Is Amadinajad one of them? Hitler who
was probably the son of a Rothschild bastard led his country
into a disasterous war against the US and the Soviet Union
under Jewish auspices. Is Amadinajad doing the same thing